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Adrian Hodgson's avatar

I am feeling that this important nuance is sorely missing from understanding in permaculture concepts around "ethics" (as one who identifies with the core concept of a durable culture, but sees much more potential in such a design system concept).. thank you for the clear provocation to take an intra-active/nested/field/agential/processural point of view.

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Nathan (Nate) Kinch's avatar

Oh gosh! You got me... Hehe.

"Ethics, from this view, is not a universal law applied from above, but an embodied response offered from within. It’s a practice of attentiveness.

The answer wasn't waiting in my head or in a book, it was waiting in the hotel, ready to be co-created through our intra-action."

I read, and then scrolled, anticipating more... But, in alignment with your intro, that was it!

I'd love to talk a little about this in some of our upcoming episodes.

The first thing that comes to me is that it's more inter- than inner-creation. It's somewhat of a transjective living process, a process that occurs 'between' (or in other words, relationally). Although, it's not often framed this way.

Luis and I were talking last night about 4E cognition, and the way in which the CIPHER model, that centres around enriches realities, maps to this (where embodied maps to person, embedded maps to earth, enactive maps to work and extended maps to society. Luis, I hope I got that right... I think embedded and extended are a tad interchangeable, because we are embedded in society, and our cognition extends in / as earth). I really think there's something very exciting in this frame, and would love to do more work here because I've often used 4E to describe what ethics actually is (getting at the nature question more than the function question, largely as a way to encourage movement beyond the whole, "ethics is a rational process with no place for emotion etc. etc." Often folks that say this equate rationality to 'cold calculation', but this too seems deeply misguided).

I am also very drawn to the aspirational process of character building, and the specific ways in which our moral deliberation-whether 'formal', or heuristic-can be grounded in a deep commitment to who we most want to be / become (and where this process is in fact core to our becoming, at all the levels i.e. person, work, society, earth...). If I had to pick one ethical lens through which to decision-make for the rest of my life (and I know this is a big call), as of right now, and for quite some time, I'd be going with the virtue approach...

Anyways, I'll just leave that here for now. See you Thursday :)

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