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I love that here is a beautiful exposition of the different aspects of being and knowing that I can relate to; that resonates with me — that I can take in with my heart as well as head. Ending without resolution feels … well … realistic. I recognise and deeply value the striving towards accepting uncertainty, and towards the positive experience of tension between these various modes of being, and also I have qualifications, that follow below.

“The urge that many of us experience to find a solution shows our inability to just be with uncertainties.” “Urge” and urgency invite me to consider time discounting. “Uncertainties” brings up statistical thinking. We all need to make decisions sometimes. Could it be comfort with a difficult choice that we are looking for, rather than the promise or guarantee that a choice will be the right one? And, for sure, making any choice (that isn't just a test for knowing “the right answer”) comes with uncertainty: will it work out for the best? So, how about a middle way between the two extremes (and yes, I'm exaggerating for effect here: you haven't put it like this at all) not needing a definitive solution, not just passively accepting being uncertain, but making choices based on time discounting and statistical reasoning? Maybe this speaks to the question of what middle ground there may be between tame and wild problems as you have described them. It's not only that I don't see a clear dividing line between tame and wild problems, but also that I find the region in between them of great interest. What you say around “loosening or letting go of a problem” makes sense — I feel I would see it as viewing a situation from different perspectives, and only in some of those perspectives does it look like a problem. In others, an opportunity … “There is no simple answer …” indeed.

Returning to the urge … if someone has an inner need to be correct all the time, that could also disable their ability to be with uncertainty about their own views. In this case, I wholeheartedly support the move towards accepting uncertainty, while noting that if this need is psychologically embedded, the journey may not be easy. Support is needed here.

And another case: the inability to just be with uncertainty may be to do with a more basic need. I don't want to be asking people to be comfortable with uncertainty about where their next meal is coming from, whether their house may be destroyed in a war tomorrow, etc. So, for me, the desirability depends on circumstances. Some physical security on the lower steps of Maslow's triangle are called for. These problems may be “wild” in the sense you adopt, but equally they cry out for solution. For sure, some people take religious faith to the point of total reliance on a higher power. For most, the received wisdom is more like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trust_in_God_and_keep_your_powder_dry and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God_helps_those_who_help_themselves

“Experiencing tensions among the head, heart, hand, belly, and sex is beneficial because these tensions foster deeper introspection and creativity in our decision-making processes.” Well, “it depends”, I'd say. “can potentially be beneficial”, I'd thoroughly agree, if you are blessed with the inner qualities and outer situation that allows that deeper introspection and creativity. But I can think of different situations where the outcome is not so beneficial.

Say you've been brought up with small-t trauma related to chaos in your family or community life. Probably you've developed some mental protections against inner chaos. Pushing people to recognise to see what looks like chaos inside themselves may, I'd guess, be rather hazardous. I can imagine it leading either to unbearable stress, or to submission to whatever force seems the strongest at any particular time.

I can imagine that someone who has difficult outward circumstances might be overwhelmed by those tensions, and crack. Not that we are determined by our outward circumstances. But in an increasingly complex world, where day-to-day living seems to get more and more demanding, the prospects may not be good.

Much has been written about the combination of challenge and support. What my points come down to is mainly, if people have enough support, they are much more likely to be able to live with uncertainty. (Though, uncertainty around the support itself? I'm not so sure.) I have a persistent sense that I am actually very lucky in being relatively materially comfortable and secure, and perhaps that contributes to my internal sense of security. How do we work towards a society where all good people have basic security, and sufficient support to take on the challenges? For me, that is to do with enabling sharing, living humbly, voluntary simplicity; and linked to that, to living with other people who have enough capacity to offer the necessary psychological, moral, maybe philosophical support. Then we can be more at ease with asking people to welcome the challenges of uncertainty and the tension. That, in turn, needs practice with the skills that are needed to live well with others. This is not a new theme for me — moving from focus on the individual to focus on the collective!

I also love the identification of Sex with the creative. As well as the instinctive sexual attraction, with the urge to procreate, for me this kind of attraction carries over to people I feel the potential to co-create with, other than biologically.

You follow on: “The questions to ask yourself here are: what is it your deeper values long for? What’s the driving force in your life? What truly excites you?” I long to be in co-creative relationship with people where our aims, our visions, relate well together, and are complementary and in synergy. Though I guess there will always be elements of fear remaining in me, and these do and will drive some of my reactions, I really want the driving force in my life to be love: love of others, love of humanity, love of truth, love of nature, love of beauty, love of the planet, love of life, love of the spirit of love. What truly excites me is when I hear and see actions or words (whether coming through me or someone else) that contribute to the love, the life, the learning, the growth and development, of other people; and when I feel in a collaborative creative flow — within the essential context of love, that also applies to sexuality.

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Peter Reason's avatar

You might be interested in the four-fold epistemology that lies at the heart of co-operative inquiry:

Experiential knowing brings attention to bear on the lifeworld of everyday lived experience. This is that aspect of knowing that arises through face-to-face encounter, perception, empathy, and resonance with a person, place, or thing. Experiential knowing is essentially tacit, often inaccessible to direct conscious awareness, almost impossible to put into words. Through experience we have direct access to the core of existence; it is the touchstone of the inquiry process and deepens through that process.

Presentational knowing can be seen as the first clothing or articulation of experiential knowing: we tell the story, make a sketch, gesture, sing or dance as an expression of our experience, often bringing it into consciousness for the first time to ourselves and to others as we do so. Such a spontaneous narrative can then be intentionally articulated and developed through creative writing and storytelling, drawing, sculpture, movement, dance, all drawing on aesthetic imagery.

Propositional knowing is knowing ‘about’ something in intellectual terms, in ideas and theories. It is expressed in propositions and statements which use language to assert facts about the world, laws that make generalisations about facts, and theories that organise the laws. This propositional form of knowing is the main kind of knowledge accepted in modern society.

Practical knowing is knowing ‘how to’, knowing-in-action. Practical knowing has a quality of its own, ‘useful to an actor at the moment of action rather than to a disembodied thinker at the moment of reflection’. At the heart of practical knowing is skilful doing, which may be beyond language and conceptual formulation. For a fuller description of the inquiry process go to https://www.peterreason.net/wp-content/uploads/Extending-co-operative-inquiry-beyond-the-human-ontopoetic-inquiry-with-rivers.pdf and Learning How Land Speaks peterreason.substack.com

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